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בפרק זה עו"ד תמיר דורטל מתארח בפודקאסט של עמרי פלד, לשיחה על מאחורי הקלעים של הפוליטיקה הישראלית, אסטרטגיה לאומית ומשמעות החיים.
האם הדרך הנכונה לשנות את המציאות היא דרך כניסה לפוליטיקה המפלגתית, או דווקא דרך השפעה תקשורתית וחוץ-פרלמנטרית? במהלך השיחה, אנו צוללים עמוק לתפיסת העולם השמרנית ולדינמיקה שבין הציבור למקבלי ההחלטות. אנו מנתחים את התנהלותו של בנימין נתניהו לאורך השנים, את הנטייה שלו לדחיינות אסטרטגית, ואת השלכותיה על המוכנות הישראלית לעימות כולל מול הציר האיראני – החל ממשמרות המהפכה, דרך חיזבאללה ועד חמאס. בנוסף, עולה לדיון התנהלותו של שר האוצר בצלאל סמוטריץ' והיעדר רפורמות משמעותיות בתקופתו.
השיחה גולשת מעבר לפוליטיקה אל עבר סוגיות קיומיות ופילוסופיות: מהו סוד הקיום היהודי? מדוע ההתבוללות בארצות הברית והירידה מהארץ הן טרגדיות חסרות תקדים? כיצד המשבר הדמוגרפי במערב משליך על עתיד הציוויליזציה? דנו גם במקומם של אנשי תקשורת כמו עמית סגל וינון מגל בעיצוב דעת הקהל, ובהשפעת כניסתם של אילי הון כמו אסף רפפורט לשוק התקשורת המסורתי.
מה הופך אדם למאושר באמת? האם רדיפה אחרי כסף ופרסום מובילה בהכרח לריקנות? ומדוע נשיאת נשק אישי היא בעינינו חלק מתפיסת "תיקון עולם" לאחר אירועי השבעה באוקטובר?
בפרק זה תשמעו ניתוח כן ונטול פילטרים על מצבה של מדינת ישראל, החל משיטת הבחירות הפגומה ועד לחזון של חברה יהודית וחופשית. תלמדו כיצד להתבונן על אירועי האקטואליה מבעד למשקפיים היסטוריים ואסטרטגיים ארוכי טווח, ותקבלו כלים מחשבתיים לשאול את השאלות הקשות באמת על הזהות והעתיד שלנו כאן.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

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A strategy ran it, or moz, veh, flat lachatel, kid, la sikt milkhama. Mastrategia is straight via America it. Okay. Availmast strategy shelano, the low kafukumiza, the gam shonel khoutein.

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No.

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Anachnu rotsim litzor etat naim sheaf shiru l'amairani litkomem. En la nu kohot karka be. Atamf atta orefta rashim, atamf mufgivet mfkatota basij, athonakotam kalkalit mphana shel neft shel shil toshlumas korot. Ata orifem tbir kvesh uh pikudvashlita. That barigaze, amikotlakhot, kudashit nekuchel basizij, kolokohot de kui. Tamtah, tamta malakh is khatishana anyway. Lodia, mvoaslagich and lodia, mzimalach shelchwaim shlusha chodesh, and khushiv shudapimit poi, kishem shama Irani, dadlakovot, le logibu Amerikavi Israeli, kahu dal set gam Blishakunashmidlo kol mea khuzma tahot. Kwash kvar shvo shavar, machba shva shivasar le mert, kvar shovoshavar netanyao mzhonochomba siri le mert, lamairani letad netanyao niran aknu kvar, karigan nimsemba kuda, amairan athomat, atnayomakdimim ebut, atemucholim shabla khatimki ima Irani loikaolo, thevaratov, afloika, vedvarb metahimadimba milhamazot mulliran, the sholetan takalat technit chat, bichelaviru. Matosya nafal, matosio upal, matos, todame, takalab badarh, shibitomishlo, khadameno im shelo, pitomushbat, pitomze, pitome mechal delikit notek, pitomani lodiamat, takalaba hagaim, shumdev, andasimal fekometrim, le fila timotasimal fekiometri mlost uh, fushum frats, and matafim tasim tatisotaru kota le kol kolpam. Tisotim montakalot, andimeniarche negale ba shivoto kohimfam yetsu. Aimza me Bahrain, uman, aimzayami ruyot, aimza me Arava Saudit mutimitakarovlohim to simtko mhkimad. Vimken? Oditokovod. Bauchhasha. Ken Avalip shoblia, ifhabli kohtak, if Amiranitz, ima Amanirani loitze, az the kinut Ayumobalisti, bo shanach, na time, shalosh, aw it'sarech, lech load sever shel kisohdesh, the bek shareze, elanu bur. Bigudu, shifchasu transfer, vulaye, let the cocha metak kohotte, coli la tet le mat zarim, vel mivzaim nekudatim, beiran talo, yhol, lat set, erv erv, m kohota in mehilate ghodu the van the matkal, lazo mvukashi.

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Tahav shama Irani Ikahotal Gorlo Tagid Nisikoum Lanta Apriot. Kiruma. Litzarina.

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Litzarina com de domashisham. Lomana shell uh kolitza shot te tilim. Lo sachul kolitia besed up to vain, svira, a birtim loi patroa yom, loi patroma kolitza day doma, and it's a berber kohatra and anima sad, she mitshamim, to ya bimbo shimithamimal kavim, lotsim, lotsim, low winter, velochizinhama. Today, short, kid shitra and khazhelo. Havel, today I kumfraga mun kesef, vitha marach shetah, vitra nghalvrim shati de mu laben zarachetach. Okay, shlam shetach and temba khovot and tame islamebite become but him qualka for zikta khalom show yawtsin fegdin. Me, Vinter. Vinter animamas because you block technique, but sofish. Lama, lama sholota gidgam koholochili love rim, as all echlamiflaga kmo shinema tellato vamimena. Kharachi is second best. Wattoria feglin maximum ba worst case scenario the megale bengvir. Ton can you delicate him? The imlo bengvir was benver zeskemo de fame malikud, but in benvir lover, mapitom, kitsulover, zolo khalikud, valikodumerman lover, z khasem tershair, a jakolot mut imetamakom, metam flagakikova. Lamelo, anni bet lomavin, or flutomer shlishko lotu kimpoch, lišle posh lishlepo. The kulkachlo again shaknu, simphirochem kilo, to dia roletta.

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Strategi with me. Roletta.

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Zaklakh shov, las lechashev, manio se kiem kim, the lover, the kolotunapah, vazu la diksakdola, flaudolani lovit kol David Bitanim, vetkolla el Sem Shokim.

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Tamit Kavenala Lechet Kazaolin Bah Shanakova ima podcast a la politikaim? Kien on the mode.

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Lo onibonetha netimem Jaohitovim the Fidate Ufka Prakim Sheruach i M A Raviga Levinstein, I'm Feiglin I'm Professor Oldmanor, Shibera Storm Israel, Chinoot, Prakim Fira Ivrich, Alertzell, Ella Prakim Mm. Wow, that's a kefai, is a kefali.

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