#991 ד"ר מיכאל שראל | "הסבסוד של רכישת דירות אינו פותר את הבעיה" - איך לפתור את מחדל הדיור?

בפרק זה של הפודקאסט עו"ד תמיר דורטל מארח את ד"ר מיכאל שראל, ראש פורום קהלת לכלכלה, לשיחה על פערי תפיסה כלכליים, נזקי ההתערבות הממשלתית וההשפעה הישירה שלהם על הכיס של כולנו.
האם תהיתם פעם מדוע תוכניות ממשלתיות שנועדו להוזיל את מחירי הדיור, כגון מחיר למשתכן או מע"מ אפס, לא באמת פותרות את הבעיה ובמקרים רבים אף מחמירות אותה? ד"ר שראל מנתח לעומק את שוק הדיור בישראל ומסביר כיצד תמריצים מעוותים של רשויות מקומיות, המעדיפות ארנונה מעסקים על פני מגורים, מתדלקים את עליות המחירים ומדוע סבסוד ממשלתי הוא פלסטר שלא מרפא את הפצע.
במהלך הראיון, אנו צוללים אל תוך ההיגיון הכלכלי (או היעדרו) שעומד מאחורי מנגנוני הפיצוי הממשלתיים, החל ממענקי הקורונה ועד לכרטיסי ההטבות למשרתי המילואים כיום. מדוע המדינה מעדיפה להעניק שוברי נופש במקום כסף מזומן? כיצד הפטרנליזם השלטוני פוגע ביעילות הכלכלית ובחופש הבחירה של האזרח? אנו בוחנים את המונח השחוק "כשל שוק" שבו פוליטיקאים מרבים להשתמש, ומגלים מתי מדובר בבעיה אמיתית ומתי זהו רק תירוץ להחלת רגולציה מיותרת המשרתת קבוצות לחץ. 
בנוסף, הפרק נוגע בסוגיות יומיומיות בוערות כמו משבר התחבורה והפקקים, ומדוע סלילת עוד כבישים לא תציל אותנו, וגם מקדיש דיון מעמיק לרפורמה המשפטית ולסכנה של מתן כוח מוחלט לכל רשות באשר היא. 
מה הדרך הנכונה לטפל בפקקים? למי באמת דואגים הרגולטורים? האם פוליטיקאים מבינים את המשמעות של מגבלת תקציב?
בפרק זה תשמעו כיצד חשיבה כלכלית נכונה מפרקת לגורמים הבטחות פוליטיות. תלמדו מדוע פיקוח מחירים כמעט תמיד נכשל ותקבלו כלים להבנת המציאות שמעבר לכותרות החדשות. האזנה חובה לכל מי שרוצה להבין איך הכלכלה הישראלית באמת עובדת.

00:00:00 פתיחה והצגת ד"ר מיכאל שראל
00:00:45 למה תוכנית מע"מ אפס נכשלה?
00:02:41 הפתרון האמיתי: שינוי תמריצי הארנונה
00:06:21 האבסורד שמאחורי פרויקט מחיר למשתכן
00:10:06 פטרנליזם שלטוני: פיצויים למילואימניקים
00:14:39 הנזקים הכלכליים של מנגנוני פיצוי ואובדן הכנסה
00:17:51 מענקי הקורונה וההשפעה על החיסכון והצריכה
00:20:25 חוק הגנת הדייר וסכנות פיקוח המחירים
00:23:20 למה פוליטיקאים לא מבינים כלכלה בסיסית?
00:25:46 מהו באמת "כשל שוק" ואיך משתמשים בו?
00:30:14 קבוצות לחץ ורגולציה שמשרתת את החזקים
00:34:36 משבר התחבורה: למה כבישים נוספים אינם הפתרון
00:37:37 העלויות הסמויות של רכבים, חניות ותאונות
00:41:03 כישלון התחבורה הציבורית הריכוזית בישראל
00:45:02 הרפורמה המשפטית והסכנה שבכוח מוחלט (פרימיום)

#פודקאסט #על_המשמעות

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Salam Vukham Bamasmoti Mulasan Temuke, Zazman, the Gam Ked is no shit as Yasan Po Gambatic Shoret, the Gambat Hum shell letters not Neshlanasim by Utus Peti, Hinami Vibakneset, the Mulkuminep Kidim Vekare, as Kadamo Titano, Kedashik, Vemu Professor Mommy Uh, Yuval Bashan, Sislo Sipurman Bengir.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Shalom, Alan, Zeno Krassiha, the stamathalamuzara, Kishigilinum Bashama Dima, Emit Bengvir, Aniso Betonar, Nicole Zayomnar Groot, Nar Kadilak, Ken, Shaya Shimagele Batemishpat, Vatiroto Baulam, Makinesami Mazikim. Lotomedi Mazikim, Kodokalu, Yesha Dalikota Ulam, Ukalatita Safaba Banchniot, Veu Ithilid Nael Kmohred Mohdin, Raita Kodokola Bhukameod, Vraita Gamta Tvunani Kalazamishpatichello, Vesham Shamathim. Vazuigalilas, and it was a young. So Beni Goodle Mash, Yeshaban Shim, Im Thomas Patan, Velo Demishpatim, Iom Bihlala and Humutsafim, Azovak, Batiksha, Parshanimishpatim Lihoashelo, Lloydim, Vikata Vim. Lola Lorra Kalavuolo and Lola Madam, Avagama Khimazov, I'm Lloyd, Dabrim, V Kali, Dabati, Culpa Shut, and Mosim Bamarchev and Kilukorodimas Biholo Kimbamahonochon Who Dea? Veladat Mishpatim, Ani Rotzigamishalama type sector, Vladatwish Patim, the Davarm, the Bemet, and Roshto, the Bemetavan.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Sociologically, a siut yeah, automatic local had some hot or some hoteshium seeout, maybe sochelano, Zelama Humatible who came dinner.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

African Holyca. Abaya, Shemashikara Lanoyom, the Shemish Movilta Metamishpatit, Ga benim the Silon, Ame Cheloida Tot Mishpatmaspeak, Kamuvano, Loi Tab, Vegamba Academia, Yeslanu Yotemidaya Nashim, Shelome Vinvinimit of Mishpat Vemid Barbelim, and Kizodat Kasha, Zelokmata Chilchai Yudit, Shamsheli Aval Kavana, Zedat, Kizedat Ble Loim, the Lachenitz Halio Tabet Zira.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

The Kashem Kloim Shla Marathot. Aval Aval Baraf Labar, and the Rotashogalam Corot, and a Koshabam Bashem Ratanagat or Decet as Sim Sal to Bavir. And it is the Mahatita Shunta, B Parashat Karkaut, Day Magilla, Moul the Kablan, but Bichemish.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Who Mesarev? Dilemma Khasha. Mago Veralma, Shota Lyota, or Srutolyota. She Zaya Rekev Muhav, Bezmano, Lifness, Style Mashonimanasiamit, Claim Colasman, Shamo Kralesidin. If Shahla Sot Diun Rekev Muhav and Kev Mouhav. Stop Zachamishava Bruce Zenigmar. Moen Gmar Mundial Khoser. And Zo and Shamgar, Alephonikra, and Magamestihotito. Aleph Shelo Nikra, Vuichlit, Lam Rotacol, La So Dionusaf. Vaz Alakhash of Team, Ayu Akadasar Shov. Shab Bonagit. Zelohki. Load is the hookovia. Lo Zaholbi Zekviotcholo. Avalmaz of Dionusaf and Dunusaf. Y Holiot. Loniklase. Uh Zeloem Kubal. Bekitu Ahadasar Shoftim Yushvim Tamir. Cola It Cola Itonim, the Kola Bitonimishpatinve, Achebsa Kadina Kodim, Kulamnikraim, Ze Ishamul Gever, Ha Ishayatso Deke, Ta Gevira, Harasha, Lamatalok, May Shata is Damutliot Imak Sha Takvarimila Dimakhrim, Veizo Chavrat Kola Tulim, Vikulov Some, Ashawan Chubamishpatit, Zikla Chubamishpatit, Hamishpatlomekenvemalo, Zetfisatolam, Anit Machatitzel Tirkil, Shay Hadmashoftim, Achi Tovim, Vezilze Lubov, Vekatvala Vezibot, Kiulaya Khadmahevre, Kiulakishonda Tatsuaiim, Kiulomi Erichtov Baidan Shizami Rutanor Hashuva, Kiulayskim Liot Helekma, Molechaz, Uayashofet Kzatkumnachemelo Chimpisina Yulukrimlo, Achraut, Watiklit Bashita Mutamach, Vuayava Shofeta Miti Veu Nikra, Nikra, Today, Bismano Azra Kamershevim Mithilu, Azanahno Inu Yoshvim, Aita Maskira, Sheito Shivita Shtime, Vemishtimehima Tafkida Hashutanoela Klid. Mao Villoto Aben, a sutliotwe, makearun, the lawyer bigala that many darba, Mishpatl Avalpo, the Bemetta Fidd Mishpatlachia, Basov, but Siptuataz, and Peter on Mishpatia, Avalma, Itapo Baya. Mitsadehad, a shoftium, she if we have a la tet. Gaming Zhitsoni at the end of the house. Bezirot Ramaz La Shoftimedin, Agavishoviltazu the Udiji Greenberg, Marshal, Masu Shoftiam, Bizon, Ther Klum, A Shoftium it Naplze, Marshal Khazagi Khiddulashuasa, Kiunatalim Sulam La Red, and Khazu Alcohol Psacadin, Vazo Sifum, and Moru Larashutom Vatat, Nasivela Mushlim, Le Vat Psakadin, Bechol a me root f share it in all deliberate speed. Lolo Bau, and Iraqomarilhata ta Avanapolit. Bechokhmato Araba, Evin, Shamishpatudat.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Politica Biachad, Mitachat Laklaim, Bebhovakablan, Kahal Kalka Fevogiot, Devil Giot, Kaha, Botire, Pitanizan, itelhaj, uhim, ima Shlikim A you Ayu Loz, Uyadala Vodim Kunam.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

No, Uyadala, Vodimitonaim, Uyadala, Vodim.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Faradim, Mko Faradim Tunim Zeve Maspa Khdume de Varze.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Kilum Masusham mod Frid Sinat Mizrahim Clay. Frid Sinat Mizrahim Classit. Loacham Ian Haredi. Kharadim Batkufai Ayu, it's terful. At M Lorotin Litarifra Bene Kudzbitahon, Gabloma Nobalkalakali.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Negus Khadim Benay, Hiv Gabi. First of all, but small. Lobby Peruko is Tanyao.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Ayalo, Aniga Dalte to the Binyan Chil Derry. Amilhama, ba can Bashritut Bashilton, Ani Uloi Pile, Loragid Reneged Rabin in the Bible. Uitril voy pill. So mentuaya, Khazak mod, Mathala.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Bonagit Kakatamet. I toss it. Lobato the Shritut mever shrituch, in a shavishnifgah, do bowst that I telephone. How shook a vanilla not leca? Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Khaval. Available. Lolo, I have shit. Ava Ishkit Miharo Nimika telephone. Lo Avaze sipu Z T V Gama Shofeto Nelivelo. Naha? Z T V Zelo Sipurpo. Asipurpo Ayah, Anashimi Trilo, Imkodemashkituta Lovata Machane, Natanu Kesefla Kibutzi, Natanukesefleze, Ish Kanoze, Achav, but Kufazo Chil Rabin, the Rabbi Masipuze, Kwa Krilo Lakesefakisaprati. Kvarayak Shirabino Sa Le Sin, Beto Mamshala, Mitsrafimelov and Shaon, Shesekwala Kisaprati. Shelaim Veshelo. Emgabdoga game Rabina Khak. Lloydai Bed Ken Lloyd. Shigam Shaknat's Malifamim, Shiz Gamtovla Zegamtovla Mdina, Atodani, Khadat Varim Ani Kofetzko Lazman, Hadad Vim Shekelli Beto Bukersh Moni Matime, Vish Sasha Miloimadhne, Shaloshanim, Zemashikala Hidazut. Yaitai Hida, Shani Shotishimishtaim Hamashanim, Yait Hida Sham Shemish Siemta, Bulamus, Ayushama Hotmadhimot, Afkadlo Shameshbem, The Azdim, Im Shikhu Lyot and Shaitzibu. Mashikraim Faked Shwen Matima Honshute, Sefer, Tohede, Ashuchelov, Vasemezebanglit, Vukvar Boneta Masula Banu, Bemetvar Evantishu Variat Savosak, M. Vem Fagdima Kirim Musimat Cyber Cyber Kefi, Fakdima Khrim Vedrim Kele, Zepamloa Velo Ze Loni Schmakadavarazi. Shawarbepa Mimcha, Ni Batil and Bet Lun, Gam Katapil Zurim, Before Be Maitiomir, Talome Vin, Anachnu Posrim Dina, Zechaniovata, Katashem Code.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Le Famim Zenachon, Arabim Zelonachon, Avalanashimek Vid Balbelim, Gamim I Thilumized and Forbemakomachir, Vetodavaraga, Vashavanikovetskalano Shoftim, Asemashithilchamilhama in Derry, In Deriv Macherim, A Vapesh Patrocate, Barret, or Ape Pam Shnitan, Derepin Hasi, Gamalinut, Gamag Tovishum, Mashma, Banana Murmudah, Botoyom, Zechlam Basarim, Velchazen Sultan de Bhokov, Vlayakok, Veselo, Madabaga Maratlomok Valochim, Azrega Negitkacha.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Codekol, Ayom the Ayomani Hoton Anamataze, Lifnekzelo Anakon, Msikku Baklalim, Velo Dulce, Vegaman Gitramila, I Politicaim Shirtu, Emele Sheshhu. Ayotematilemshalla, the Musaj and Ivnali de Politicaim, Lole de Afradahim, Aklatot Memshala, Shundavar Shama Lonikba Levad, Akol Zayu Akhlatot Memshala, Veg Vakol Gamno Nava, Mitfisa, Bonnaim Lagid, Bonegitemet, Ben Gurion Chebana Potakol, who the Shepil and Tavarzhan Kryot Shatina Memshala, Bamuvana Zesh, Gover, Al Colmenkele, Zebenu Kava.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Vada Granat Kavaket.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Achrez, Tilach Not Shishin, Ben Gurion Zeshi Trilta Esik, Lama, A Granat, Ba, Avadazo Dagitil Vikor Ben Housner, Levenos Rekame Sar Ausner Iazain, Lo? Pirasan and Lobot. Aval Ausner at Makiroto Eteva Niminiakil Fugamaya Takiwa Gamilui. Colamrachi Macheta Bozausner. Bekitsu Avalani Tami. Tami Ravya Houser. Avalani Anirotzegit Hazasipuraya. Vimatashuel Lamaz and Ivnaakum, Ki Bengurione Latet Mizada Mishpatimla Progressivim, Vazu Evin Shara Mishpatim Loyeshelo, as Huze She Bana, Tamarit, Shaoetzamishpatilo e Kafla Sar, Kilifneze, Bamandat, Hayoet Atovera Shina Yasar, Zebetimaya Title Shelly Msella. As po you interest in politics when it's odd, Kulam Shikutam. Kulam Ratsuese, Baraklo Kavashum Davar, Shehem Loratsu. As Nachon, Benguroni Tatsbenala, Mishpacha, Sulam Koravchelo, Besh Notter B invitation, Lohemeth. Dov Yosaf and the Burns. Law, Shall no Vataganat Agra. Dovio Sifamani and Messi Bahir, Uzhikaram with Lemishpati Noungari Ekurim and Rosh Lov Kastner. Kastner? Why dovershill cast Castner had over shallow? Loyalanomishu etovimeno. Amartitze Tudamimata Loracalabagas Gamaleno? Uh Upinat Hevron, Uloi Kimedina, U Shamara Kalinchelano, Amartizem, Fuata Tavot Kola Shemot, Amarty, Elanomishu Totomi Bibi. Who me vitayamin? Usela nutavoda. Im laitasin at bibliote, shhetzamhabe zoim kmo eudbarakreve kaele, shemi, shemi, shemi, shemi sham. Adayom, shella, shella, gana bibbi aze, mushhatmeem. The adayom said, Vaniloiv shamaitrubam, Adayom I Zotataut, kiwa natalanuhakol, shothashochim laya raklo bibbi, adam italum shala, shalikud, vanaknuba mish veto, vanaknu zekan, fizan, the gambizeno, kibibi a pinik, ulaya yomashustana, and ilord debatito, uh mamlachti.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Uloma pinik, oh revisinist beginis, todemma, ucaze. No, beginis a begin amar boban la reshid bana charette, ocaze. Letano met be met me vine, kohanjela litot, et a shivot, chillin, etatomas, gulichelim, le comar hobendina, volorat panarch barosh.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Ani l any okay, yeshle tortze, and she lament which is Lomilagasa. Low can U Koshev shou showed la Ula Shaf Zahiret, but Kufasha it trilouito para shot, Yeshafti to be Pamaim Shaloch Shaloch be betrochem shallas, should it la bet my la sorta martilo ishit, the shaviti no traver atahav lazov, attachav, la gale scatiun, allazov, masha practituto lehet, fata, zemilhamasha m dinalotitemena, hemloivatu, andiloe echemicholim levater imae goshelem, atta lotevet, velakeni matau dinazo Vitamaze, as tatsichla segedbush vilam Vanolo chivlizelo maftia, Summe for head Lir Otbiladav.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

S elementam and he as a vantage, Bemethika Bemetu Bagga, Lama Shirzomila It pass, Bitormashua.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Ipito Galsio not it pass Betormashura. Mach I Ben Gurionaya Dola Mashichist. Um, Sheshniveticoreat, Velivela Lotted Colmashami Vars, Zelomish, Zelo Lose, and he Koshev Metchweimin, She Udloy Gia Lachalov Shalita Zot Batalamalhut.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

Drag Marshall, and Podcasty Mahremosh Mitran Beret Flarbe Podcast, or Megolipo Motpo.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Shall I take Adam, Balpine, Veshesh, Ukatap Sephrical Kali, Vaz, Ubikeshli Pagesh Lodazeloetsa, Loda Ma Malabas? Ubikeshli V Goshotti, Lishmo, Ita Bicorod, Vze Modich Mili, Shavchuma Tat Az, Kilushalati and Hoshia Benetayaza Galach or Tem Loz Rema, Shalarti, Dir Dalko, Drichmi Shaket, Colminema Marim Likratab Gisha. Batibayom todayuma kre, shallushama take a feshelaza, by chakrasai, putsets, shittichemsham. Lobsha Bikitsu, Shavanikva, Toda Meshaf, I t Sayavan Shuf Shabish in Politica, Mani Makri Movim. Tano telefair, and put him to sefer, today, but make it limpo. Lo, Mr. Klimpo, Mr. Klimsarh, Imiesh, Ratzagoral, Sheshpuga today Mafteah, as the Emi Skiruta Shem Mash was a mift border mudimvas, and my gidulecha, bueno, take Peric Chai Krasha Patati Locaratita Sefer, Locratita Sefer, Peric Chisre Man. Shabazkino Karuta Colve Hule, I have Gamba Academy to Tomash, she triout, politics are to ship. Netanyahu, Kara, cover to cover, mammash, shilma marine or dani good vine. She said that is been the small kitchen. Small tachieve. Uh intellectual mechapo ubananim. Ubemet ze avel Shavani Jose as Uloy skim as well. Uloy skim the Vaterbishville, Gaming Ze Av Vilvegami Muse, Uli Big Latvisam Shisit, Aval Avalubat Fisa O Anikoshu Tel Notelatilima, Gamashava, Khaj to Rov Rubashla Vadabiran, Shovlon, Lol the Kegam Tam, Bemet Rov Rubashla Vodabiran, Butrim Bebramashelle Shella Sakanami Adit, Kvaram Sakanamia Dit.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Moni Holot, I holote al Enanashimkay, Sado, Aba Lobato, Shudiad Sredsa, Etutobenadam, Srim Shana Berecev, Kheshaha, Mesimathav for Usra, Batuh Shell, Kigam U Mashu Astabish Viliran, Uzneh Bot Pinva, Botin Bene, Botrahamwat, Agamot Sari, Tiklut Kinim Bator Shelot Zari Varchon Git Kazemakene.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

At Hamere, it la Tidaba, La Lavez, Tatalekol Yelled, Lit Nasobekle, Ugama Mata Marshev Ashenian Hushev. Zeb seder, Tsarikam Imayar Shawinu Tovim and Zugamaya Omere Bonah.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

She Pershubov. And it has Od Koeval Mitzel, the Italishkamitroke, Shel Nachalishka, the Havis Court Mazkira Bebatmecha. Low Uloitva. No, it has more reset more called Bemet, Lonimeshushi, Vershabi.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Tadalon? As a mo ashettisha, uh, Massame Huvana Khino Rashwasa Srivashubana. A Dira Yoshim, a Dera Nashim Reim.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

But Hushasheli, Mikolachatanyao, Musa Peral Veshe, Balaila, Shalosh Baboker, Umarim telephone, Lamaskirat, She Baboker Chucam or Shin Sheroso. Telephone Jon Lamaskirat's cabinet, Lamazo Sabitacon. Ulai Bramat Sabiton, Uliberamat, Ramatkal, Lamo, Colam Cablachatot, Colel Baba, Telefrahon Lamazkirat's ni loide, Zanilo.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Tistakella, Levi School, Gambigal Shem Lossam Hove, Ine, Warshavomer, Namtacibotra, Levi, Itsilotano. It's illotano beshtam. Ayala Mochula politica behested, ooh, but colatic shortanegdo, Moshe Dayan, Wagadol, Ze, today, Falekle Tochamisra. Lobigawish Bengurion. Moshe Diane, Bishte, Besoff Wiggain, Levi Sholi Kentatzava, Veb Shivim Shallosy Atlouboin.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

Aval Moshed, the Mm.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

It to Tim Gorinimo, Sabona Sadvarim, Velavish Colo Mazot, Sadvarim Amitim, She Mula Mula Basimhigashimad, Bitelta Mimshalatzvay, Mimshal Tzvay, Shafra Islevate, Barveel Ubitel, Shime Light, Kamchin Schmaium de Billy, Etzamoja Botinski Lepo, Ita Milchemetolamanze, Beng, the Negas Malin.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Lobet Kvarotombelo Betelaviv, Bara Herzel, Zeomet. Alar Bedwin Shivim Metterma, the Bzebech. Lob Dulauma, Bekalkat Ultra Gdulaoma, Letelukovo.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Rakshazana Unatanora, Villa Hengams and Mamaer. Zot a Khokhma, Achese Ugam Agav Gam, Shelley Ratullah Zerati Rushalim Ulonatalim. Kshika Uli Rushalaim Vatican Ulonatan.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

The Modbuk, Atish Kashika, Sodicia Shibashwak, Lachlita Khatasodicho Mat, I don't know, the Rakpo, Evan Miko.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Nahon? Have takes the Kmo Netanyahu, Shani Lobasik me vin. The gamet Masha Nukalish calls and corresponding. Vitzlich. Basov, Ehitslechalitz Aerav, Sh time Tassimid Varim Shinatu Bathalla, Mearatamakpella Ve Are Alufgorin or John She Reveb Kuda, Ksha Mr Fanot, Uniel. Bekitsu Zotman, Ani Hershav Mani with Lagid, Lintanyao, Gamas Viva ishit. A tight gamas, Igwa. Milofits, and the other thing. Lloyd Anywhere, Ani Shamatela Vrakti, Lokir, Lomakiroto sheet, Lomakirze, Zelo Adam Shaitiro, ye bal, to the Latigoto Beto, uh uh Dmuyoche Nimsoti, but Minuimucatastropha.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

Echorim, la Allufim Bashabak, I own Korumalim, Echo Me Fagdin, Sec, Milchabitola. Send semantica.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

Lombi lobby lobby lol and lomivina, Ms. Lintuit. Mamash Konish Rim Roche Velosiku. Aniken Movin. Aniken Anit Stichani Ani Mude Shetlish Gdusha Bamadim. Ani Modegama studenti Sapulcha, Miloimnikim Luchamim, Ktinim Lomdim, Gdusha.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Okay, sikenit Kaya.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

City Bamata ni lo. No, Lomagia, Lomagia. Avalazo, Aval Avalbona git Kha Lufim, Ayu, Gobam Kimatkulam. Ayu Lochamim Beshushav. Lochamim Shib Khafim nefsecvarumer Mashwalim. Okay. Stamim nialuma rachot, Nachotini alubitsi Raya, Ayomashlechhayum. Tistakela Shavala politicaim, andilochul de Berbella Krisek and Shovoshavad Sibit, Avatistakella Niselchama, Zanashim Shem Shuv Niukmo, Bogre Galats. Staman e Kolem Bogre Galatskeshem Redidut Meshulovim. Anashim Shotim Litvaker, Litz Oak, Ayom Gabla Sotzinkim, Nichnasim Vadot, and Shumzo. And should have shelmek, Beshkim At Afadmo Madimstow, Stakelet Moniframe Democratim Tavola Omicchel and Shib. Zenith, and Mukhut, and Sheatzavot Mivimlecha, O and Ship She Baumima Hot Kumatzava, Mishta, Vegama, Hot Shutom Dina, Mivra Fahotison, Asi Elon Zaum. Tarshovia Yutkuf and Isulikanes and Shima Sakim.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Animatizer Ramilev Kazin Bem. Rami Levis, Meteor, Shiodea, La Mathamatan.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

Bigel Chebatima is Remele and Herberomantica Lem Tidalecha. Anilomit Levman Sipure Cinderella. Vanit Ramilevurev. Avalobatorshua Matimle Sotokol, Kmosh Mish Aya Baitek, Vasa Exitim, Vatakes Loniela Nashim, Ki Mod Kalinel and Shim Cheshka, Talotel, Le Bhitzail Shunais Relief, and the L. Kneul Cash. Veneel, Veneel, Velo Or Shane, Vov Dim. Azipukher, Kmosha ni Federman, Vikola Hevrechella, Colomish Potashot. Strauss, the Fedman, Feldman, Feldman. Strauss and the Batters and Yudivasgam, Tudashela Mavek, Vikam Tistakella toda.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Bonne Batalamit, Zne. Iim Gamze Ave Tasuze Add de Chevo Abad, Richon Le Logus, Michimba, Kadimchelabin. I Makshaw and Huyav Le Michel Tanta Hizola Livrof Kabo. Vze Parashaben Lon Leben Barak Vaniman and Valore Ilum Kele Gamba Mashela Tush at Rotana, eh, Nepulmus. Shamsel Barak, Vegamselon and Emia Schneem Vinomishpat, Mishlam, Machlok, Echronit, Nachhol, Barakus statist, Lachdishpathiburi Vetashivon, La Cutra Pati, Velon, Ulot Capitalist Gadol, Shari Mishpat, Katova Locatov.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Lom Shane Gia, and Achducholin Solco. Lomcha name. Pam Zaanit Pase Kemashu Loya. As Biglazeya, Gama Yom Shabellion, Kama Shemivini Mishpat eight. Codical Alex Stein, Shalotidbalbil Yad An Mishpat Brahma, Mavrik. Ube met Mamin Bze, Ukalat, Sheesh, Shassu Taut, Vebish Moni, Hamisha Mimachrei, Hamishay Mimah Akhe Akamatam Dina, Shekavuit Kudat Sidre Shilda, Shamubezim, Hamashpata Mandatory Mashayaushe, Shakhulik Bokominvarim, Vilah Miglata Tnut Kwa, Barama Achhi Positivist. Ooh, Gila, Dafka Bgala Itam Kuchello, She Shaknu la Gid, She Megilata Tsmout, Enla Ella Mashmout operativit.

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La watch is a machit coven. Look at the Karat Protocol me Daled B E R Vimi Vav BR. I lock A B R A B Rikba. Have Zine. Have said Have Tish Vabishabat. So I'm Ugaon Apropos.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

U Kavabishta Whatem Kulang Ferro, Elemi Ushalam Lhluat Seta Sarah Nashim, Azvarigu, Beshtaim Patah, Shah, Shah Shlema, Uikrita Migilla, Sha'a, Shamish Benguron Deber, Uh Mayer, Ulaat Shah. U Marach Marak, Shaloshit Hilo, Kulamit Nagdu, Enechalit Nagid, Khutzmanashav. A Yaminit Nag Bigal Khalukatari, Said the Bigalze, a communist in the Hevre Bigale, and Dr. Beom Rishon, Arba Kavanakh de Rotrochild, Amandat. Beomrison Bashtime, Amarlem Kam Muhammad, so that's the same, but we have to do it. Aval Alex Tin Muchham, Ishama Trichamimani Lontensunim, Aval Yodemishpat, Ishamoutkam and Dafna Brakeres, Yodat Mishpat. Ani Lomika and Ikolapsikotchlobashim Shallosha Arba, Shalosha Konoot, and I Khushevshi Osadvarim Lomishpatim, Aval Mishpatim Vinitiv, Knafishteinitz, Kamasho Simutalag, Bevinna Mishpatla Omik. Vitavo Eshod, Avsa, Taft of Bayon, Solberg Lomart.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

The Solbekamovan, Lospatmod. Solberghavani Khatiam Psychoma Mhozeo, Lisney Posen, Vazel, Colmini Dinerash, Ukatada, Zo Isha Mukmod.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

Can Ishamok the Sedan Zhayoma Tsadaimani Loyvoto, Vatada Smiley, Uze, and Zoh Anikatati Turim Bado Laminushelo, Kippaslutala in Dotcholo or Mocha Mespetan Mula Vodanmule? Shav Afton Bailon Loyu Kulamishpatinovim. Mishpatinto Mishpatanitovim Ayu.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Ayoban Ayugampeno Avalarova Yubano Texiv Zavodar, Besoff, Avodashikit Kasha Animazel Animazam Vinet Mazash Parash. Zavoda, Kasha, Betterov. Ani Loma Belot Yamaz Sababa, Kitamipa Pikavodat Kale Shelamud.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

No, Yo Amaza Sugahira Vazagama V Dut. Ava leadamiros, Ani ani Lomit Lomhabeda Mashuasa Vam Khrim. Lom Salem u Zalom Shell. Patarta Popetah, Kmochan Lomchabed Bennett, Katavti, Al effect Bennett, Zesha Ta Im Shisha Mandatim, Darashta Rashutam Shala, Vishavata Pot Kolo Klalim, Varshav Yavo Mishwa Khavuya Setotov, Libra Manomeric.

SPEAKER_00 58:02

Accol Ashmat Khutavo. Basov politica, termara.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Add, add, add, la shallove, shata, lama e gatahala politica. Politica may lomilagnai, a foch, the Natsi Laba Mallo.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Lot of Josh votable.

SPEAKER_01 58:48

Lobishvilo Elobishvila Mout? Lemonetaniavel. Kizai, Avalazovzano de la gid, Zaya. I hold her.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

She Tahlagilo Atashem.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

But small, Michel's small. Misham small. Kalkalid, the Aurona Higadol. The populism and Laura.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

All Gado.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Agav military dino, Peteronze, Yuteriam meamin, Bem van Mesuyam, Mephinat Democratic, M anti Democratic Shamrubam, M Lomvin Democratia. Toshamatan Shimedabrim no vining democratia, em Loliberal in Beemet, Azla Lama Ms Lama Mzepse, Az Gamla If Shala Gediz Libik, Moshef Shag Sachanias, Tazuz, Imatabaya, Tazuz, Michael Evtam Dina, Tsarim Lakripishvila. Hosalan Kudai, Aval Avalzehu Viter Le Benet was up Taut Bainai Shuvanio. Ta'ut historic, Benetamarlia Shuvtor, Vulcode, Benetomalia, Khashovla if it's a lapid. And Avalbecal Avativ, the Otomash, Mishimafribe de Unimpo, Mafria Bedunimbellon, Enakver Forumim, Shatehol Kellenel, Dionimal Team, Bli A Hashash, Sh automatiti, lo Shakeste Afghana.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

Can Vaza Colmathiliot is what a Shiva Maceta Kumbayaza Igulator is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

Ayometechovostam. Today Segbinaphrodamik David. Baiman Shibche, Loaf Pam Bampus Hardy Mdabrim. Baim Kiru Akolnia Akulamer Kulam. The Gam Haveknes at Ramashitima. And you gidmash and echolocha mayor dak and is the cantod. As a total, Law you may zim la sortit masho. Etta Dibulashtim, itta Milhamud Bifnim, Bona Lola Lottiunim, Lola Mod Bazmanim, Loya Kazedavan. The Aaron Barak Nielta Ulam, Lokmoteodoro, Auron Barak Niel Biava, Banim David, Ayama Shukamba Ba Uba Ulam. Wayam old name, Micha Mikirto Gameda Shwadamut. I thought Gershon Salomon, Aya Kaveshu Bahim, Shuada, Aya Kimit Noatnimani Arabayte. Why Talamakir Mterech overtly, U Ari Shonchibra Arabaite? Okay. Why tercy drati, a strut la lotarabite, Odlifnesh Bengvir, Nola, Odlifnesh Lodamize, ehah Gershon Salomon, today, Udikaze Mkipaze, A call Udiberbe Cavod, the Barak de Bret, I call it Valanta Mishpat, Kmoche Zashmata Knesset, Kmoche Zashmata, Movilea Michaoto, Mifze, the Hebraikas?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Stam Tiretats, Lakasha, Mifalaze, Stam, Mifala Magishba Shahona. Klub as I had a podcast in Bemet, Achimani, Machelo, Fascisti, Ani Libertarian, a Fukunka Bad Baziracal Khalid, Losita, the Vari Hathuvi Hayeka Potter, Kodakal Khalit, Grucha Tita Schimikamal Zot.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:31

Kodakal Muta Ani Zloch, Ani Lachemala Schutzhalital binya Libertarian, Anigam Aniata. Shanib Elisco, Anico. Anashim Akirim La Politica. At a tagit poster and Maxim Kmoima in Basofa as at Bagats Villahook. Ani Bemeta Achivreel and Maritu Tamish Ratsl Thomani Lochidov Milakara Aval Tistakel Minichnas, Tistakelhemasim, Emi Mutamiot Tikhoet, Emovdimanotam Tadmiot, Ani Bemet Nagitukma, Omrionen, Meodzaktimen, Lamrochit Nagatil Sarbanud Vekataftenegovole, Ratitil Schmuloto. Gambihad Hashivab October, Wishy, Avar Mashu, O Ville Zemashu, Vachaelogamyyanishima, Safta. Vazani Roto Mufia, Kumo, Slihja Numer, Hotel Sheleom, Meta Bear, Shaluto Shelakasha, Utokev, Ulono Ten, Umish Telet, Vihu, Meat Segne Mana, Todai Shmuta Khadel Benet, Yonatani Shalev, A Nechetel, Gabi Shalev, Uvalim, Todamiz, Gabi Shalev Kamuvan. Right my shelv shall Yonatan. Stichashanumer, Yefia, Efia blow it, Bainai, Maglan, Lochem, Tata Tata, Megalak, and I would say Namo to Gidishad, Niali Mugdam, Val to Dama, Lumatmashla Noyoman Ephilum Hanoto. Echune Latsless, U Mikabelet Kalamishak, U Tsoek, U Nichnas Badebaz, U Mbofia Batik Show, Babati Buruyud, Vebgay Bagress, Totodov.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:53

Recall to Kazakh, well, Degan, Lochishlo Agenda. I hold short.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

She tell me Flagash and Uhidwala emherit em Lolchimnatic short come shinyba, the Muchanim Lateta Sinka, the Billy Ragbishemikansu, Emlomhadim Laded Koldavar, Emime Ishlem Kelima and Kmochatose, Azemi Isku Makleze, Emloia Sheshu, Le Shahmem Tzibu, Veliotte Achirim, Zotzi Halam Shamet, Yeviralit, Dibano Laomek, Kibahabimachatashiniod, Keflano, Romadimpo, Come Machot Politiot, Achno Gamani Bernagetaniano, Whatani Kiluymin'shu, La Mer, Catal. Lonemuti Verit, Lol Lol Bagat, in Lehmannot Le Verle Bagat, Loleminuti Bertani Ada It's Benuk, Shekamartis, Kane Bagatsumerta Jinjib Sheimla Sothe, Lloy Vino, Agav Mazelov. Akim ofti. Meaz Shani, Karati Hopesalivatan, Slichala Falzanut, Nova, Mashu Amar, Azebkon Shani Gashti. Atmoshigasti butronut Im Milhematakol Bakol, Vakol Mutar, Vakolze, Azzechaimbe Mati, Athemenuha, Atakola Yombedaga, Lorzeliocham. Anarchia Zoevit. Vilaken Mishu Tzirlateta Milakhona. Uze nota Milakona. Karegazemasha Hokkuve, Rotzim Chanu, Tikbu Hokisothakika. Ken, Kiwa Pashanchelahok, tikbeu, Shefsha orifsha Otakimu Agav, Mahavikha Vim Shebetuspati Lomachula, Takimu Betushpatkukati. She shama Lodama, Anashimim Vete, Clo Lavdevka Mishpatanim, Colmine Shit. Avalov Shane, Beta Mishpat Natan Oa, Nagid, Le Psikashi Bilti Hukit Balil. Arashuthevet Levatse, Anike Prat, Luhav Levatse. Ah, okay. Lama, Avashapo Anikamochan Vedrand. I should ter ke Prat, Siklit Patter Bassipochalem. Okay. Asar, siklit Pater, Asar Levins, Patrick Velama.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

Yoli Idishadavan Lamabesh Vita Hetzibilti Hukit Hukithones. No, and Kali and Losha concretity.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Et Mishe Etara Vichu Bihalu Benadachincha, O Mishu, Shayatraba Bitknesset, Veyotsev Bonebitknesset Khadash, Vanilo Tatim Abitknesset, Aniom Yes to Shilio Transha Shilekim. Baruch Sip, Anichoshev, Holchigashiofimasriya, Holocheni Adamra, Lodalam, Aniumatamabh Avalanium, Lo Elihazlochumatamrati, Avanweka Shizip, Sheganti atoda, Pabuchoshatafita Bomba, Kiti Ayeledia Kirli. Tamidavativarim, Anigantial Derri, Bitishim Vishmo, Tamamin be Mamar Bahret. Vikwa Zamru Kani Kabele, Ulechabetov Kid, Tamidza Zedavakikal, Lalbishalanashim interesim, Lamo Use, Whatsekle Bibi, Lamofalelo. Ken Ashavnicha, Zeod Haium Zabsid, Elora Zariasip. Shama, Havim Askat of T Barets, Haverimi Toharitz and Wutchiva sit upomin. Bamirikam Suam, Mizrahi, Ramle, Eli Beita, Zalakimis.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:12

Gum Mazalada, Mishnah to Agam, Mishni, Bilash Temilim, Egiolo. O Amara Khaversalo, Ken, Fehu, Temble, Yarita, Animakulham, Youth Mish Patikinam, Yaritim Lomishanimatical Bigam Gellachem I Turaov, Lom Shema, Tem Sot Mim Tapes and Burkin, Atem Sotumimtape. Logbachira, Gamatem, as a manichteha, and the and the and lodemakara and the shoot, the Beducumchilla.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:51

As a Talibranz Benutra, Ze Kshata, Ne Dharmashabin Chileda, Ksharim Lamulchilam Schmout, Samsitra Mevereze, Nitzloto Ayamin, Nitzelotobitsura Mhppira.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

Gibor show regar of him, Vosod, Lolo Gibor, Kulak, U Shamashpo, Psatzabaizor, Var Ani. I've written a video, and the water dochemen pay, the chiv.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

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SPEAKER_00 1:26:20

Hamilton, Madison, Anakim, Becol Sidagod.