על המשמעות - ערוץ פילוסופי פוליטי בהנחיית תמיר דורטל

#1004 ישי גבירצמן | "סקרים זה כלי לתעמולה" - איך ערוצי החדשות משנים את דעת הקהל?

תמיר דורטל Season 1 Episode 1004

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בפרק זה של הפודקאסט עו"ד תמיר דורטל מארח את ישי גבירצמן, יוצר תוכן פוליטי ומשפיען רשת, לשיחה על מאבקי התודעה בתקשורת הישראלית ועל פערי ההסברה בין הימין לשמאל בישראל. 
במהלך הראיון, גבירצמן ודורטל צוללים אל תוך הדינמיקה המורכבת של עולם התקשורת והרשתות החברתיות, ומנתחים מדוע מחנה הימין מתקשה לעיתים קרובות לקבוע את סדר היום הציבורי למרות שהוא נהנה מרוב דמוגרפי ברור בקלפי. הם דנים בתפקידם הקריטי של ערוצי תקשורת עצמאיים וערוץ 14 אל מול התקשורת הממוסדת, ובחשיבות העצומה של נוכחות ופעילות יומיומית ברשתות החברתיות. 
ישי משתף מניסיונו האישי כיצד סרטונים סאטיריים וביקורתיים יכולים לפרק נרטיבים של השמאל ולהציג את המציאות בצורה פשוטה, חדה ונגישה. האם ניתן לנצח את מנגנון התעמולה המשומן של מחאת קפלן? מדוע פוליטיקאים בימין חוששים לעיתים קרובות להתעמת ישירות עם עיתונאים? ואיך כל אזרח יכול להפוך לחלק ממערך ההסברה באמצעות המקלדת בלבד? 
בנוסף, השיחה נוגעת בנושאים פוליטיים וביטחוניים בוערים כמו המלחמה בעזה, הדיון על סוגיית ההגירה מרצון של פלסטינים, תפקוד צה"ל והוראות הפתיחה באש, והאופן שבו סקרים פוליטיים משמשים לא פעם ככלי לעיצוב תודעה ולא לשיקוף אמיתי של דעת הקהל. 
המאזינים ייחשפו לזווית ביקורתית, נוקבת ולא מתנצלת על הדרך שבה חדשות מיוצרות ומופצות בישראל. בפרק זה תלמדו כיצד לפתח חשיבה ביקורתית כלפי מהדורות החדשות, למה כל כך חשוב להגיב ולא לשתוק מול הנדסת תודעה, ומהו הכוח האמיתי שיש לכל צופה וקורא להשפיע על המציאות. זו שיחה שתעורר בכם מחשבה עמוקה על התפקיד של כל אחד מאיתנו במלחמת הרעיונות.

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