#1026 אריה ארליך | "לא נעשה רילוקיישן לברלין" - האם החרדים הם הציונים האמיתיים?

בפרק זה של הפודקאסט עו"ד תמיר דורטל מארח את אריה ארליך, עורך מגזין "משפחה", לשיחה על קו התפר המורכב שבין החברה החרדית לחברה הישראלית הכללית בעידן של שסעים ומלחמה.
במוקד הדיון עומדת סוגיית גיוס החרדים והשירות בצה"ל, במיוחד בצל אירועי השבעה באוקטובר. ארליך מספק הצצה נדירה וכנה לתפיסת העולם החרדית, ומסביר מדוע, למרות תחושת הערבות ההדדית העמוקה וההערכה לחיילי צה"ל, החברה החרדית חוששת מצה"ל. הוא מדבר בפתיחות על "כור ההיתוך" הצבאי ועל הרצון הקיומי לשמור על עולם הערכים היהודי-מסורתי מול השפעות פרוגרסיביות חיצוניות שמכתיבה צמרת הצבא. הראיון נוגע בעצב החשוף של החברה הישראלית, מוויכוחים על שילוב נשים ועד למקומה של מדינת ישראל בעיניים חרדיות. ארליך עונה למבקרי תופעת "החרדי החדש", מתייחס לטענות על ניתוק ממלכתי, ומסביר מדוע בעיניו החרדים הם למעשה ה"ציונים האמיתיים", שנטועים בארץ ישראל ואינם מחפשים לעשות רילוקיישן ברגעי משבר אלא להישאר וללמוד תורה.
בנוסף, הוא משתף בסיפורים מרתקים מאחורי הקלעים של עבודתו העיתונאית, כולל הרגע הדרמטי שבו הניח תפילין לנשיא בית המשפט העליון בדימוס, אהרן ברק, בשיאה של המחאה החברתית, והסערה שהתעוררה בעקבות כך בימין ובשמאל גם יחד.
מה ילמדו וישמעו המאזינים בפרק זה? המאזינים ייחשפו להשקפת עולם מגובשת המאתגרת את המוסכמות של השיח התקשורתי הרגיל. תגלו כיצד תורת החסידות ומשנתו של הרבי מלובביץ' משפיעות על פוליטיקה, מהו יחסה האמיתי של ההנהגה החרדית למדינה, וכיצד נראים חייו של עיתונאי חרדי הגר בשכונה מעורבת בירושלים. האם יש "ישראליזציה" של החברה החרדית? מדוע הציבור החרדי משלם מחירים כלכליים כבדים לשמור על עצמאות החינוך שלו? פרק זה מזמין אתכם לצלול לתוך מורכבות פוליטית, חברתית ואמונית מעוררת מחשבה שחורגת מהכותרות השטחיות.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Gutiomb, ah, Gutiom Tov Hayelul. Ken, Yom Gadol Mod. To Damakarul.

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As in here, the Vita Tatavenoheim, Madaf.

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Ken, the Hashov, Hailul, the Yomuledit, Shelchne or Tak Dolim. A balchim to Vakados me at the Hasidut, Bebalatania, a Nechad Rukhanishmo, the Snoldubayomas the Hay Elul, Yom Hashov Mod, B Hasidud Habadabus the Machnit Chayut Baylul, Hai Elul, Machnitz Haiut Baylul, the Masarium, the Rosasena, Colyom Meta Basana, the Ina Humitkovim. And you called debate, Haredi or Hatanity Hotel. I will be met a little knee, Haridim Train Baradio or Batelevisia, and I meet Kavits Bemukha the Corre. Oh my Tego Tibetan said. I've a lot of mid Muslim. And you often say about Haki Haki Mabrim, midbate, shoot the local, podcasting of Setovle politically? And he also is a good one. As a today, as Basov, I met exhibit. Bo the long line of sick dear tsmicha, the collaborative, mechat ericamishpah, mechikata mishbach, late matu demographic by myudi. Bo, Bleatsibo the TV Khari, Dain Mamminimbe, Mishpach, Bruchotiladim, Stuchanim Kadima, Vanak, Sakul Sacha Col Schmunim Shana Hersha, Ama Yodi, Walkmait and the Berla, the Shuita Rovit Askara, Atzibo Moni, Ama Min, A Khari, Vad TV Dinat Israel, Emma Rubba, Coincola Demographic, Shelati. The Haker Ma Rubba Rikit.

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SPEAKER_02 30:59

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SPEAKER_01 31:16

Matun.

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SPEAKER_01 32:37

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SPEAKER_02 45:18

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SPEAKER_01 46:59

Effota Schultailed Dimsilcha, Lemata, Leziachimatam, Mechanic Taylha, Sham and Ashim Nim the Dim. As Gamiom Yom, Nimzab, Ezorim, Iskeim, Kaleva Khrim, Bafilutim, Tivdock, Effoi Dimshello. Today's vote, she barmitva la bencheli ve Natatila, Mshatfim, Sefer Katan, Kachasanikatavas Bershit, Ves Yosefatik, Casero Kimatichal Behit, Caser Potifani Stalchilo, as Ms. Prim Khazal, Sheikh Echunitzal, Nigletali Fanav Dmud Diocnoshilavive, Red Mudio Knosi Liv Sidia Cov Bachalon, Vikhaunitzal, White Abba V Abbait Ziloto, When you A Meinu, Lefam, Nigata Aderchlinat Silma, Nisiono Dikshaimpitoim, the Tire, Lefanekha, Etmudio Knosil Ayelechelcha, Celelia. At a vintu, eh dimsil shoot a three totchili, shallan venerinhon says the lookalov, Al Khanan Venaribanize Lilo three tot and it's amenal at smir, so you three tot, but shall dim shortanchili amitana genetically dim, but sof anachumhavn with me a head to Hivrach Redit, Ashka Bechinukhael Dim, Avana Shayeledim, the Lifna Cole Bishuz, Mishab Dimitkola, Mashabim, Vemaski Metkol Aycholot Vitkolmasha, Bishwil Sheledimik the Luke Mosharich Zedvarchashov, the Mark Hikashov, Vedmudu Knoselayeled. But shoove.

SPEAKER_02 51:00

Sedar, okay, Adam, Bahamunji de Bolav, Shall Toma, Shall I Smoke.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

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SPEAKER_02 56:29

Bogad. Oh my lochan, then I'm not sure what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

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SPEAKER_02 59:20

Tariqotibe met, but le genize, the machir shen to moch calling.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

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SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

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SPEAKER_02 1:04:38

I'm a better sticker. I'm at Amechaven. I'm N Baru, Baro, Baruch and Baro.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

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SPEAKER_02 1:05:57

Ken Azina in a caseim in Dageshbatette to Shimik to Amlachto. Ah Itam hemitamtu can law a chataim deck of the Geshbat Muskamekula Alma. Ken the law the Maj. Itamu Khattaim and Shimik to Amlachto, the law, Chotim Khatami. Ah Chotim is Dem. The Duke, Hotim is the name.

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So the Purush Machmir Kilo a Perusha class.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:28

Aval the Smith, Lombrink Mam is Rochnikum Haksa Mere. Aval Pnehe called you didn't look here to that toast media.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:41

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SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Gamerosa Marzherbezavia Marz.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

Honor, Honra, Simon, Taloish Aval Anakolon read me pound the two. Ms. Gav, no? Or is gav. Bidio. Anachottionima mitium. Zwatnuashi Du Kazal, Kashir Van Shakeset Agdulla, Kasherm Tiknulla with Nosa Hatfila, the Kasherimulanu, se lifnessan and salaim tishkahimini, but some effir la Ros, Vesamon Minagim to Dash Birusalaim, lo Lomistem Shimegina, Bhatunot, Elakbe Betupim, Ki Lol Kede Lulishwah Khurban Yerusalim, Van Sekin, Defnation Vachimir Gatamazon, Ki Ayamikresh, Ladam Shepa, Merov Tsar, Khab Khazam Saprin, M Rovzal Tsar al Khurban Irusalim, Ulo Igial Matav Mod Kitson, Venakh Zuhrim at Yerusalim, Bite Shelsumrimitvot and Hasatore, Ama, Lama, Lomesuyad, Lombl, Ken Blitiah Blissid, Kede Lolishkoach Khabani Rusalim, Anachmu, At Yonima Mitiim, Gaman Khloshimatikva.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:54

Is Mangalut, Vishalut, Agalut the Loma comes the man. Gangster with San Pomishuma.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:20

At the Pitform, what's it perceived very much? Shishasa Hyalim, Miplugat Tomer Begivati, Bainishim, the team, a Kafua Lemli canesle in a mere em paramedicit. Then o ged, it's ithiv name, Kasem, Igul M Itz Vul Sharet, Ambulem and Holonivka by Monashem, and Lotis Dakekule the Khes in Paramedicit Totan. But Twitter of the Taut was called Marichat's weight gibtauto, Migadolvad Katan, Kula Meramatkal Vadlikud, Gibbta Ma says the Omrimlaim, Atem Ritzweim of Yub Sarto Takim, Lotika Bluetooth, noticabloch, and a cabel item shelhem, you should in your name gdar, the yeshita kudate a shiluvara oy, vote him progressive. She la caratovats of it. Adam serit a nef, she maketh chayav, she muhan la kriv kayav, le man have, be met Kadoshia Merlo Pinat Masu say me any bichal shani shani shani a haleklo the name. Adam Shem was a number job de Kim Shmonima time. Almisha be met musician. No, game baby crav. No, Gamem. Animari, Anim Bamari. A throach out of the ten days them taken to ship. Animari called Adam Ship Ose Mashutovliman Haver Huta. Okay, Nekuda. Bevadai, Uvaday, Shani Marta, Adam Shep Mesakenet Kayav, Bevada Bros and Elmala Sh would Baianaze. As the Archai e Kayemet Archai and Sufit ve shum kuhavyot byanase. Aval Mikan vead Lidrosh, me yaled Khari, Shemikatnut, Ithanehlo or Ramshelachim, Mod Warhim, Mod Mukdarim, Villa Gilo Tatilekhabura, I took Svae. Wama, can the Helikamir and Gvoimatsawa, Avalana minimum and lahilit to the colour, Vanachmu Hadim, Lomuchanim Lachilita Hose Hiluna Lalu, Villachen, Kodem Koris Pusne Halakim, the Halik Salom Deatura, Nakumamini be metu. It had the Kyom Michelukan, said Zemash at Mulasot, Gam at a sibali share nuclean, and a homekafim can be millionaire, millionaire, Migelanim, Sano Yud, Tefkid, Varita Yeritavoteno, Vitari Amidkan, Dor Lomde Torah, Legion Shalmide Hachamim Eferta, Tolama is a Karav Basoa and Hukamotome Efer if Neamshana, but Henchelometura, Ze Ashut Shelola Misrael, the Tefkida Lumiseloba, can in Ken Gis Benohla Gidzelamuchi but takes the Loko Kavin.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

Ah, noch like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:26

Should have the Kemahamaa, it's the high ternochli Lomarid, and Humaminim Gam, she at Torah, Meganala Misrael, and Humaminimbechin Mudra, Megan Misrail, and Kyumo physically to them ate her. What Arabim Lubavitch, Arabim Lubabich Amara, to the Hashov, Hanesh, Shochim, Arabim Lubavitch Amar, to Adim, she Talmidi Shiva, Shibta Milhama, Sogere Tagmara, Via Tele Hazit, U Arik, U Arik Le Holdavar, Uloshone, Michael Shabitumas and Milchama, or Rick, Mishwata Milhama, Orekmehazit, Tafkidhal again, Miss Ramsaut Mud, Com Columda, and Michal Lobby. Aval Aval Masa Nachnu Masu Betem Masaly Medutanu Arabim Bavich, the Lolamlo and Wahlzere de Fnaish, Sirtonia Fair in his cardiac dolarim, Nahu Bedorayomse Mitchan film today by the Ashir, Torem Le Colmini Hatzirot, as meadman Mefari Muto Mitchell Fimela Visto Gdimlo. Yes, Sirton Madimsel, Yosef Safrawa, Gadat Osher by Brazil. Rabbi Babichman Hig at Noai or Dita Hikashuva.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:21

Hi, Zan, Mitsubakash, Adamut, and the Lord.